Transcript of audio excerpt (edited by Interviewer): E- "And so these stones, this is a medicine wheel?" A- "That’s what’s called a medicine wheel. It’s a central cairn of stones with…, there’s lots of controversy what it represented, and what it was done for. The archaeologists tell us that this circle was older than the pyramids. So what we think it’s for, I worked with a group from the National Geographic, they sent a guy and he did an article that was published in a book, and I liked his theory. He said he’d come full circle anyway. He was no wiser as to before he had left. Of course it’s a revered site for the last few thousands years, but as to what it was build for or why… Dr. Edie, who was an astronomer, he came up and lined up one of the spokes with a star. I never did believe that, and now I’m vindicated because scholars don’t believe it either. He was one of those guys… an astronomer, was one of his main subjects. The fellow told me that, “Don’t look too hard for something because you might find it.” And he did. I tell people if you drive in the dark night, and drive in a couple stakes, and go on another clear night, and one of them will be pointing to the stars all the time. So it wasn’t for that… My belief for [a long time now?] is that it was some kind of marker or map type of thing… But nobody knows."
